{"id":1185,"date":"2007-10-27T06:02:51","date_gmt":"2007-10-27T10:02:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/piel-l.org\/blog\/?p=1185"},"modified":"2007-10-27T06:04:44","modified_gmt":"2007-10-27T10:04:44","slug":"176-consulta-a-un-colega-n-3-como-manejarlo","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/piel-l.org\/blog\/1185","title":{"rendered":"176: CONSULTA A UN COLEGA  N\u00b0 3 (C\u00f3mo manejarlo)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Caso presentado en la edicion 174 por  Jaime Piquero Martin y Edgar La  Rotha Higueras.<br \/> Cl\u00ednica de la piel. Cl\u00ednica  Sanatrix. Caracas Venezuela<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Recordar\u00e1n que presentamos a  un&nbsp; paciente de 38 a\u00f1os fototipo II  motorizado, con importante fotoda\u00f1o que presenta en dorso de manos y antebrazos  p\u00e1pulas que confluyen formando placas que le dan a la piel de la zona un aspecto  &ldquo;correoso&rdquo;. Se aprecian algunas p\u00e1pulas que semejan quistes de inclusi\u00f3n. Se toma biopsia la cual es  reportada como Enfermedad de dep\u00f3sito probablemente Amiloide ( Rojo congo  positivo).<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/piel-l.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2007\/09\/174\/colega1.jpg\" title=\"colega1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/piel-l.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2007\/09\/174\/colega1.miniatura.jpg\" alt=\"colega1.jpg\" width=\"128\" height=\"96\" align=\"left\" \/><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/piel-l.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2007\/09\/174\/colega2.jpg\" title=\"colega2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/piel-l.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2007\/09\/174\/colega2.miniatura.jpg\" alt=\"colega2.jpg\" width=\"128\" height=\"96\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/piel-l.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2007\/09\/174\/colega3.jpg\" title=\"colega3.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/piel-l.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2007\/09\/174\/colega3.miniatura.jpg\" alt=\"colega3.jpg\" width=\"128\" height=\"96\" align=\"left\" \/><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/piel-l.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2007\/09\/174\/colega4.jpg\" title=\"colega4.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/piel-l.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2007\/09\/174\/colega4.miniatura.jpg\" alt=\"colega4.jpg\" width=\"128\" height=\"96\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/piel-l.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2007\/09\/174\/colega5.jpg\" title=\"colega5.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/piel-l.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2007\/09\/174\/colega5.miniatura.jpg\" alt=\"colega5.jpg\" width=\"128\" height=\"96\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Enfermedad de dep\u00f3sito<\/p>\n<p> <strong>\u00bf Es un liquen  amiloideo?<\/strong> <\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00bf El da\u00f1o act\u00ednico tiene alguna incidencia  en la etiolog\u00eda en&nbsp; este  paciente?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00bf Como podr\u00edamos  ayudarlo?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>La coloraci\u00f3n para rojo  congo resulto<\/strong> POSITIVA&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Hice un analisis del caso que  llevamos a consideraci\u00f3n de ustedes, descartamos en principio los diagn\u00f3sticos  de Liquen amiloide por no tener el aspecto caracteristico, a pesar que la  coloracion para rojo congo resulto positiva, pero nos basamos en el trabajo  enviado por el DR. Guillermo Planas ( ver abajo).<\/p>\n<p>La posibilidad de  <strong>foliculitis  perforante inducida por da\u00f1o solar Cr\u00f3nico <\/strong>  aunque presenta un material amorfo  que emerge en unos cortes la cl\u00ednica esta muy lejos de ella&nbsp;.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Igual podriamos decir de  la  Acroqueratosis verruciforme que asoma nuestro amigo Aldo  Gonzalez<\/p>\n<p>Me gusta el diagn\u00f3stico de milium  coloide que sugiere Guillermo , ya que al ver al paciente en mi consultorio me  habia pasado por la mente.<\/p>\n<p>El planteamiento de sugerencias para  su manejo siguen en pie<\/p>\n<p><strong>Nota : Las fotos y analisis en  cuadro son remitidas gentilmente por el Dr. Guillermo  Planas<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Images<\/strong><\/p>\n<table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tr>\n<td>\n<table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"1\" cellpadding=\"5\" width=\"100%\">\n<tr>\n<td align=\"left\" valign=\"top\">\n<table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"1\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tr>\n<td>\n<table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"1\" cellpadding=\"3\" width=\"100%\">\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\"><strong>Lichen amyloidosis<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/derm101.com\/diffdx\/images\/diff1_044_01a.jpg\" alt=\" \" width=\"180\" height=\"138\" \/><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>&nbsp;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<td align=\"left\" valign=\"top\">\n<table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"1\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tr>\n<td>\n<table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"1\" cellpadding=\"3\" width=\"100%\">\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\"><strong>Colloid           milium<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/derm101.com\/diffdx\/images\/diff1_044_01b.jpg\" alt=\" \" width=\"180\" height=\"138\" \/><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>&nbsp;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"left\" valign=\"top\">\n<table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"1\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tr>\n<td>\n<table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"1\" cellpadding=\"3\" width=\"100%\">\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/derm101.com\/diffdx\/images\/diff1_044_02a.jpg\" alt=\" \" width=\"180\" height=\"101\" \/><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>&nbsp;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<td align=\"left\" valign=\"top\">\n<table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"1\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tr>\n<td>\n<table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"1\" cellpadding=\"3\" width=\"100%\">\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/derm101.com\/diffdx\/images\/diff1_044_02b.jpg\" alt=\" \" width=\"180\" height=\"101\" \/><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>&nbsp;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"left\" valign=\"top\">\n<table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"1\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tr>\n<td>\n<table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"1\" cellpadding=\"3\" width=\"100%\">\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/derm101.com\/diffdx\/images\/diff1_044_03a.jpg\" alt=\" \" width=\"180\" height=\"101\" \/><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>&nbsp;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<td align=\"left\" valign=\"top\">\n<table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"1\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tr>\n<td>\n<table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"1\" cellpadding=\"3\" width=\"100%\">\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/derm101.com\/diffdx\/images\/diff1_044_03b.jpg\" alt=\" \" width=\"180\" height=\"102\" \/><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>&nbsp;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"left\" valign=\"top\">\n<table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"1\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tr>\n<td>\n<table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"1\" cellpadding=\"3\" width=\"100%\">\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/derm101.com\/diffdx\/images\/diff1_044_04a.jpg\" alt=\" \" width=\"180\" height=\"105\" \/><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>&nbsp;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<td align=\"left\" valign=\"top\">\n<table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"1\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tr>\n<td>\n<table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"1\" cellpadding=\"3\" width=\"100%\">\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/derm101.com\/diffdx\/images\/diff1_044_04b.jpg\" alt=\" \" width=\"180\" height=\"107\" \/><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>&nbsp;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>&nbsp;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p> <strong>Differential  Diagnosis<\/strong><\/p>\n<table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tr>\n<td>\n<table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"1\" cellpadding=\"5\" width=\"506\" height=\"345\">\n<tr>\n<td align=\"left\" valign=\"top\">1. Surface scalloped<\/td>\n<td align=\"left\" valign=\"top\">1. Surface domed<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"left\" valign=\"top\">2. Foci of compact              orthokeratosis associated with epidermal hyperplasia overlie              globules of amyloid in the papillary dermis<\/td>\n<td align=\"left\" valign=\"top\">2. Thinned epidermis with              loss of the normal undulate pattern between epidermal rete ridges              and dermal papillae above deposits of colloid in the reticular              dermis<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"left\" valign=\"top\">3. Individual necrotic              keratocytes in the epidermis often<\/td>\n<td align=\"left\" valign=\"top\">3. No necrotic keratocytes              in the epidermis<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"left\" valign=\"top\">4. Rete ridges form              pincers around subepidermal deposits of amyloid<\/td>\n<td align=\"left\" valign=\"top\">4. No pincers formed by              rete ridges<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"left\" valign=\"top\">5. Amyloid situated in              widened dermal papillae<\/td>\n<td align=\"left\" valign=\"top\">5. Colloid positioned in              the upper half of the reticular dermis<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"left\" valign=\"top\">6. Amyloid deposited as              small globules<\/td>\n<td align=\"left\" valign=\"top\">6. Colloid deposited as              large homogeneous accumulations<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"left\" valign=\"top\">7. Amyloid is amphophilic              or eosinophilic in sections stained with hematoxylin and eosin<\/td>\n<td align=\"left\" valign=\"top\">7. Colloid is amphophilic              or basophilic in sections stained by hematoxylin and eosin<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"left\" valign=\"top\">8. No clefts in globules              of amyloid<\/td>\n<td align=\"left\" valign=\"top\">8. Clefts in nodules of              colloid<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"left\" valign=\"top\">9. Stellate fibrocytes and              melanophages associated intimately with globules of amyloid<\/td>\n<td align=\"left\" valign=\"top\">9. A few thin fibrocytes              associated with colloid, but no macrophages<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"left\" valign=\"top\">10. Angioplasia in              conjunction with amyloid<\/td>\n<td align=\"left\" valign=\"top\">10. No angioplasia<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"left\" valign=\"top\">11. No solar elastosis in              the vicinity of amyloid<\/td>\n<td align=\"left\" valign=\"top\">11. Solar elastosis              present always in association with colloid<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>&nbsp;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p> <strong>Discussion<\/strong><\/p>\n<p> Lichen amyloidosis and  colloid milium both result from deposits of homogeneous material in the dermis,  but the composition chemical of them is as different as the appearance of them  histopathologically. In both conditions, fibrocytes are affiliated closely with  the deposits of homogeneous material. In fact, it is likely that fibrocytes are  responsible for the formation of amyloid in lichen amyloidosis and of colloid in  colloid milium.<\/p>\n<p> Because of the highly  characteristic attributes histopathologic conditions, just listed, specialized  stains need not be performed routinely to differentiate between amyloid and  colloid. When necessary for academic resolution of the issue in a particular  instance, Congo red is the most reliable stain for differentiation because it is  positive by dichroism for amyloid and negative for colloid. Crystal violet stain  for amyloid is prettier and more dramatic, but less reliable.<\/p>\n<p> The lesion clinical of lichen amyloidosis consists  of agminated, discrete, slightly raised, brownish-red translucent papules that  often are keratotic. The condition is intensely pruritic and occurs most  commonly on the anterior aspects of the legs, but in some circumstances may be  widespread. Macular amyloidosis, as the title implies, consists of flat lesions.  In contrast to lichen amyloidosis, macular amyloidosis has a predilection for  the interscapular region. The keratotic papules of lichen amyloidosis are  consequent not only to progressive accumulation of amyloid in the papillary  dermis, but to the effects of persistent rubbing as well. In short,  superimposition of lichen simplex chronicus on macular amyloidosis transforms  that condition into lichen amyloidosis. The evidence for that is prominent  compact orthokeratosis and hypergranulosis in virtually all lesions of lichen  amyloidosis, signs incontrovertible of persistent, prolonged rubbing. Macular  amyloidosis that has not been rubbed and, therefore, not thickened by lichen  simplex chronicus, remains flat, as is the case stereotypically in the  interscapular region. A current hypothesis about how amyloid comes to be  deposited in the upper portion of the dermis in lesions of macular amyloidosis  and lichen amyloidosis holds that globules of amyloid derive from necrotic  keratocytes in the epidermis, they being secondary to the effects of scratching,  and when those bodies are acted on by fibrocytes, amyloid is the result.<\/p>\n<p> Colloid milium consists of discrete, smooth,  yellowish, translucent, waxy papules on sun-exposed sites, especially the malar  eminences of the face and dorsa of the hands. Sometimes the papules of colloid  milium are restricted to the left side of the face and the dorsa of the left  hand in persons who spend much of their time driving a car in a sunny climate,  such as is the situation for taxi drivers. At first glance, the smooth  translucent papules of colloid milium may be misinterpreted as tense vesicles or  as &quot;juicy&quot; edematous papules of polymorphous light eruption.  Histopathologically, colloid is surrounded always by copious amounts of solar  elastosis, both of them being stained bluish-gray by hematoxylin and eosin. That  concurrence and those findings indicate that colloid and elastotic material are  related closely to one another. Amyloid, by contrast, is not in any way  associated with damage by sunlight.<\/p>\n<p> Whereas colloid  in the skin is found only in colloid milium, amyloid is detected in a variety of  circumstances other than in the macular and papular (lichenoid) forms. For  example, amyloid is present around blood vessels in the skin and subcutaneous  fat of patients with systemic amyloidosis, in large solitary nodules of nodular  amyloidosis and, most often as a finding incidental in a host of inflammatory,  hamartomatous, and neoplastic conditions in the skin, especially in seborrheic  keratoses, trichoepitheliomas, and basal-cell carcinomas. In those conditions,  individual keratocytes tend to undergo necrosis.<\/p>\n<p> <strong>Search <a href=\"http:\/\/derm101.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Derm101.com<\/a> for <a href=\"http:\/\/derm101.com\/search\/search_index.asp?StructureQuery=lichenoid+amyloidosis\" target=\"_blank\">lichen amyloidosis <\/a>and <a href=\"http:\/\/derm101.com\/search\/search_index.asp?StructureQuery=colloid+milium\" target=\"_blank\">colloid milium<\/a>.<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Caso presentado en la edicion 174 por Jaime Piquero Martin y Edgar La Rotha Higueras. Cl\u00ednica de la piel. Cl\u00ednica Sanatrix. Caracas Venezuela Recordar\u00e1n que presentamos a un&nbsp; paciente de 38 a\u00f1os fototipo II motorizado, con importante fotoda\u00f1o que presenta en dorso de manos y antebrazos p\u00e1pulas que confluyen formando placas que le dan a &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":16,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[25],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1185","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","","category-consulte-a-un-colega"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/piel-l.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1185","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/piel-l.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/piel-l.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/piel-l.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/16"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/piel-l.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1185"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/piel-l.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1185\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/piel-l.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1185"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/piel-l.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1185"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/piel-l.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1185"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}